RV-15 Seven+ Weeks and Lessons Learned: Building With Flexibility

More than seven weeks into my RV-15 wing build, assembly has come to a stop due to a lack of backordered parts. So, there is time to reflect on the project while “piddling” in the shop looking for ways to extend progress. Here are impressions and lessons learned.

  1. Prepping pieces takes less time, but seems like it takes more time than for previous kits. Huh? Well, most holes need little or no deburring, the blue plastic covering is new and peels off easily, and nearly all pieces are Alclad making scuffing and priming optional. Thus, time spent stripping cover, deburring, and priming non-Alclad surfaces is minimized. But, the time-saving amenities for assembly are much greater than time saving in preparation. Perfect match holes, prepunched holes, pieces precisely cut to correct dimensions, inspection and landing light holes also precisely precut, and wiring harnesses preassembled make assembling time fly. In the end, I feel like I have spent much more time doing the tedious preparation tasks than the more fun and satisfying “building” tasks. There is no question that overall completion time is much faster, but the ratio of fun to necessary tedium has declined.
  2. Based on reading social media posts, a lot of first-time builders are interested in building the RV-15 and hope the new kit will require fewer expensive tools than older kits. However, more tools are required than first impressions suggest. Yes, there are many blind (pulled) rivets but one also must shoot some solid rivets and squeezing is much more appropriate for other solid rivets. Puller, bucking bar, rivet gun, and probably a squeezer will all be needed. Most holes that require dimples are prepunched, but not all. Dimple dies with a squeezer or another way to set the dimples are needed. Edge deburring is a major time sink, and the builder will want a variety of deburring tools and materials to handle all the corners, nooks, and crannies.
  3. My wing kits came with a list of many backordered parts, including a few major pieces like the right front spar. Challenges brought by backordered parts certainly aren’t limited to early adopters or RV-15 builders, but I suspect both factors exacerbate the challenge. Once again, the speed that this newly designed kit comes together also speeds up the customer’s need for the missing parts. The terrific success of the RV-15 kit has also meant more customers competing for limited parts.
  4. I have received a little pushback from factory folks for referring to my project as a “beta build” and, perhaps, I should clarify that the aircraft itself does not feel like it is in the “beta” stage of development. But, release of the RV-15 has stressed the company’s operations, and that is where we early adopters are truly beta builders. We are testing the operations side of Van’s, not the aircraft. Communication with buyers has been unsatisfactory to many builders. Numerous promised shipping dates of kits and backlogged parts have come and passed, often without notice from the company. Tracking on backordered and reported missing pieces has been spotty. The drawings for assembly seem to be consistently good and they are beautiful, but the accompanying texts are often incorrect. While the company announced that they will release updated Kit Assembly Instructions each Friday, only one set of updates has been posted in the seven weeks since the kits were released. While I have no doubt that every individual and every department within Van’s is working their tails off to do their jobs, integration of operations is obviously lacking. Integration in a new endeavor always takes time, and here is where the beta testing is taking place.
  5. While there have been many issues with Van’s “operations” side of the experience, the parts received by me have been 100% well-made and beautiful. The design of the wings and the kit parts are without comparison in the kitbuilding world. Hopefully, the operation challenges will eventually be sorted out, and we will remember and enjoy this beautiful airplane in future years.
Left wing skeleton with fuel tank stored on the top of a large workbench.

Productively Killing Time

But, as noted in my previous article, the Kit Assembly Instructions (KAIs) are compartmentalized so one can start almost anywhere if it doesn’t require a previously assembled piece. I started by following the sequence in the KAIs. First, I assembled the left-wing skeleton, added the premade fuel tank and the premade wiring harness, and had to stop before adding skins due to several missing pieces. I somewhat concurrently built the right-wing skeleton. Again, stopped by missing pieces, I built the two ailerons until I ran out of parts. Then, I built both flaps, again running into hard stops due to missing pieces. So, I finished the preparation of all available skins, including nut plates. I am fortunate to have use of a large shop and now have subassemblies stashed in many spaces while I await the backordered pieces. In the last couple of days, I went back to the prebuilt/quickbuild fuel tanks to do a thorough inspection and cleaning and temporarily install the fuel level sensor units. I finished that task yesterday; it is the last thing I have found to do until the backordered parts come in.

The challenge in working this way is ensuring that one doesn’t paint oneself into a corner. So far, I have had to drill out eight rivets because I became impatient and mounted a couple of leading-edge ribs that interfered with mounting a bracket after missing nut plates were obtained and installed. I’m hoping that I have avoided doing this sort of thing in other places. We will soon see.

Flat left wing skins, also fully prepped and stored in wing cradles left over from a previous project, and the right wing tank stored in its original shipping crate.

I have mostly waited for the backordered parts, but we have made orders to Aircraft Spruce for two missing nut plates and a batch of missing rivets. It was a trivial amount of money spent to keep the project moving forward. But, as of this morning, work has stopped again.

In a display of “just-in-time” manufacturing, some of my backordered parts are scheduled to arrive today. Their appearance will allow me to progress on most of the assemblies (two wings, two flaps, and two ailerons), perhaps even finish the flaps. Significant pieces critical to progress will still be missing, including one front (main) wing spar, aileron weights, and brackets. But, who knows? Maybe “just-in-time” delivery will happen again? Hope springs eternal.

Both aileron skeletons are stored on top of the large, original shipping crate awaiting backordered parts to continue the build/assembly. Left wing skins fully prepped and stored under the large workbench.
Louise Hose
Louise Hose
Louise Hose is an instrument-rated, commercial pilot who regularly flies her RV-6 as well as the RV-3B and Dream Tundra that she built with her husband. She is currently building an RV-15. She was also a pilot and principal in the RV-1 restoration project.

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OldDPE
OldDPE
8 days ago

Thanks for an honest update on the realities of RV-15 construction turbulence.
I ordered some parts to repair a portion of my 19 year old RV-7 baffling on Feb 24th and they weren’t shipped until March 2nd, so Van’s still has a way to go before they reach reasonable turnaround times.

Mike
Mike
8 days ago

Those wing skins look great: shiny and brand new! Much, much different than the pieces I received from another kit manufacturer.

Sarah Brown
Sarah Brown
8 days ago

Thank you for the thorough and thoughtful updates! It’s been fun to read along as you make progress.

Steve Ingraham
Steve Ingraham
8 days ago

I received my kit on February 5th after having an original ship date of January 9th. I also have had multiple important backordered parts, although not as important as a right spar. The parts missing have forced stoppage of work until they arrive.

I will have to disagree with Louise in her evaluation of the Kit Assembly Instructions (KAIs). Let’s just say I am not a big fan. They leave too much detail out on each page. This leaves the builder guessing as to details such as:
orientation of the parts (i.e. forward/aft facing, inboard/outboard, up/down). listing of part numbers unclear as to whether you have to use a different part number for the left/right wing in the same area (you do in many places but don’t in others).multiple drawing views on the same page that have different indication numbers for the same part call out but no indication as to which of the views the call out refers to (i.e. one drawing on the page shows part #1 as the aileron push tube while the other drawing on the page shows part #1 as the bellcrank).this is just 3 examples but there are more than I care to list. Simple instructions fail to be simple when it forces the builder to make assumptions on what to do because of a lack of detailed directions and/or drawings. Decluttering too much for simplicity’s sake can be just as confusing as including too much information.

it appears Vans wishes to simplify instructions to the point of becoming the IKEA of kit manufacturers. Building an airplane from a large number of individual unique parts is multitudes more critical to get every part assembled correctly than it is to do so with a futon bought at IKEA!

NWade
NWade
Reply to  Steve Ingraham
8 days ago

Having built a Sonex and now building an RV, I’ll say that the one area where Sonex is noticeably superior is in the drawings. Its probably because the Sonex was originally intended to be plans-built. Each drawing page gives you a list of exactly which parts you are building/assembling, the quantity you need to build, and the drawing number where those parts will be used next.
Once you wrap your head around the way they show the top/front/side of each part/assembly, it becomes very easy to understand and follow!

NWade
NWade
8 days ago

Thanks for sharing the process! But as someone who slow-built a Sonex from a mix of blueprints and an early-generation kit (i.e. no match-hole parts, pilot-sized holes only on some parts, no factory clean-up of bandsaw-cut edges on aluminum angle or plate, etc) I would *KILL* for the “fun to tedium ratio” you’ve described!

I certainly hope some of the logistical issues improve – I believe that its frustrating the folks there just as much as its frustrating builders (…and I say this as someone who’s got a couple of backordered parts for an RV-9).

Adam Hunt
Adam Hunt
8 days ago

Thanks for the update; we are all cheering for you!

Doug
Doug
8 days ago

Louise, thanks so much for sharing. I appreciate you early builders that bother to communicate outward because I truly hate mucking around with debugging plans/instructions!

- Poindexter -
- Poindexter -
7 days ago

Louise, Been following your comments on VAF, but great to see you post on AvBrief. A BUNCH of us are watching you “Pioneers,” the folks that are the first to build the 15. We want to see how all this comes out and any problems, changes, etc that come along. I’ve got an 7a and a T206H, which I’d love to have replaced by the 15. Thanks, again, for the post.